UFOs and Federal Research: Why it is Needed and Why Folklore Tells us Little

Folklore has come to dominate every popular mystery. Whether this topic is Bigfoot, disappearing people, or, in this case, flying saucers, any topic that becomes popular is subject to hype and hyperbole. Discourse takes the place of research. Narrative becomes its own real life comic strip and toxic fandom comes to control the subject.

This is true of UFOs more than anything. The discourse came to be controlled by pure folklore and then religious claims of contact with higher, wiser beings. Claims from the occult crowd began immediately. Instead of channeling 3000 year old dead Egyptian priestesses, the occult crowd now channeled little men from Mars. Lord Cromarty declared in Lords that he has no doubt that aliens talk to people. He is just amazed they only pick “kooks.”

The Pentagon has admitted that they had been studying flying saucers again since 2007 and even released pilot statements about encountering them. This has unleashed the world of discourse, and sadly some of it is so misinformed it is only cropping popular impression the true phenomenon yet again.

Research and true investigation, on the other hand, has revealed a strange pattern to flying discs in the sky. It has NEVER gone beyond that, but enough observations of them did reveal a pattern.

The world was overwhelmed with reports back in 1947 when the first great flap occurred. One of the earliest qualified witnesses was NASA scientist Roy Hill. Fortunately, he took up a lifelong interest and remained very sober in his analysis.  His sighting and then interpretation is underscored by others in released Air Force ATIC reports from the early period when the Pentagon was quite forthright about encounters.

It was July 1952 when Roy Hill and a friend saw two saucers come in from the Atlantic near Norfolk, Virginia. They commenced what he described to Blue Book as a strange jitter. Then they commenced to horizontally revolve around a central; point at quick speed– about a second each revolution. Then they instantly switched and made the same maneuver vertically. Soon other saucers arrived and then the group proceeded West overland along the 37th Parallel. He deduced this orbiting maneuver was a “rendezvous” signal.

This same maneuvering, sometimes referred to as “dogfighting” in other ATIC reports, was also witnessed by members of Hamilton AFB in California. More glowing discs joined those “dogfighting” and the group headed over the Pacific in a diamond shape formation. Again, this same jitter was reported over West Virginia on another evening. But the two saucers engaged in it were never joined by others and they proceeded inland on their own.

Add to this the famous report of the airliner pilots (Fortenberry & Nash) in flight near Norfolk, also in July 1952, that momentous July in Ufology. At sunset the pilots saw an echelon formation of saucers coming in to the coast from the Atlantic. The first disc waffled and made a turn. The two behind it almost overtook it and then turned and the others following remained in formation. They proceeded overland along the 37th Parallel.

In that momentous July an Air Force pilot opened fire on one. It zoomed away and behind closed doors his base commander was ready to court martial him. Captain Ruppelt broke the story in his own book The Report on the UFOS in 1956. Soon after the shooting incident a UFO kept playing cat and mouse with an Air Force jet over Michigan. There were those in the Pentagon who were certain this incident clinched it: flying saucers were from outer space and under intelligent control.

Why? It had nothing to do with the clarity of the sightings or even with the physical fact there had been radar lock-ons on these objects.  It was most likely the pattern. Not just the “rendezvous” signal. They followed far more than an intelligent, though insect-like, way of communicating with each other. There was another pattern.

After the encounter with shooting at the saucer, no more large formations were sighted over land during the day accept at very high altitude. Then these stopped as well. Saucers came into the coast around sunset, almost always from the Atlantic, and then regrouped after the rendezvous signal, and proceeded inland. Hours later at dawn they regrouped again on the Pacific coast or at the Gulf coast and headed back to sea.

Moreover, the saucer over Michigan seemed to be detecting radar lock-on, and  it equated this with gun range. Each time there was lock-on, it zoomed further out of range. It seemed to be provoking the jet to fire, so it could verify its range. This is a disturbing chain of events, and it follows a logical pattern.

The pilots’ encounter off Norfolk in July 1952 also suggested the saucers cannot communicate with each other but had to use maneuvers. Those in echelon behind the leader did not see the turn coming. There have been a number of reports of saucers flying in what suggested the lead saucer took the others by surprise by a sudden maneuver.

There was also the “stacked coin position,” in which the saucers appeared to attach to the others in the squadron, possibly for hull-to-hull communication.

There is much more to the pattern of sightings– how they followed civilian and military aircraft in the early days. The goals seems obvious– it is the only logistic way to find all of our airports.

The pattern of saucer sightings was such that military men could predict their arrival. Captain Ruppelt wrote how one colonel at the Pentagon had been pounding his hand on his desk predicting the arrival of more saucers off New England or Washington DC before it did happen with the famous Washington DC flap in July 1952.

The various patterns easily suggested logical interpretation. It not only suggested the saucers were under control, it suggested flight pattern and basic reconnoitering tactics. The most obvious pattern: after being shot at they confined themselves to roaming over land only at night or during the day only at extreme altitude.

There is so much more, but it NEVER went beyond sightings. The pattern that can be detected is truly frightening, but the phenomenon remains to this day one of a disc- shape craft and their patterns.

The real saucers are only lentils, on the oblong side. There are different sizes: 100 feet, 60 feet, and perhaps a 20 to 30 foot size. There are some very small “probes” at about 2 feet. The probes were first reported at White Sand Missile Testing site. They followed a rocket launch. Theodolite tracked a saucer 105 foot in diameter.

The 105 foot saucer as estimated at White Sands in 1949.


The early reports are the most sober. They come over a period of years, from military personnel, pilots, and some scientists. Analysis reveals alarming consistency.

True, slowly but surely the grandstanding occult got involved. Mysticism, séances, hypnosis revealed all sorts of weird contact with incubus and gave us other tall tales that mirror ancient folklore and myth. This is the human reaction. It is not the stimulus. This was the popular real life comic strip. Any analysis of this is NOT an analysis of UFOs. It is an analysis of the human phenomenon is response. It cannot shed any light on the tangible data that has been uncovered. Nor give us any insight into the disturbing pattern these discs in the sky and in the oceans have followed.

Long before the hype and hyperbole, explorer Nicolas Roerich reported this encounter in Altai Himalaya (1929, Skotes Publishing). The incident had occurred in 1926.

On August 5th— something remarkable! We were in our camp in the Kukunor district not far from the Humbolt Chain. In the morning about half-past nine some of our caravaneers noticed a remarkably big black eagle flying above us. Seven of us began to watch this unusual bird. At this same moment another of our caravaneers remarked “There is something far above the bird.” And he shouted in his astonishment. We all saw, in a direction from north to south, something big and shiny reflecting the sun, like a huge oval moving at great speed. Crossing our camp this thing changed in its direction from south to southwest. And we saw how it disappeared in the intense blue sky. We even had time to take our field glasses and saw quite distinctly an oval form with shiny surface, one side of which was brilliant with the sun.

— Not that dissimilar to what White Sands reported of their high flying saucer in 1949.

A scientific pursuit must come forward to examine this data, form an hypothesis and then test it. This is not in the realm of psychology. It is in the realm of physics, aerodynamics, and cold hard investigating and analysis.

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Since 1990 Gian J. Quasar has investigated a broad range of mysterious subjects, from strange disappearances to serial murders, earning in that time the unique distinction of being likened to “the real life Kolchak.” However, he is much more at home with being called The Quester or Q Man. “He’s bloody eccentric, an historian with no qualifications who sticks his nose into affairs and gets results.” He is the author of several books, one of which inspired a Resolution in Congress.


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